芯片|美论坛:在美国这么多禁令和限制下,中国还能发展高端芯片吗?( 二 )


最后一个重要的考虑是 , 中国是全球最大的芯片消费国 。 对于芯片公司来说 , 能够在中国销售足够多的芯片来收回成本并赚一些钱是至关重要的 。

If these are understood then it would be easy to appreciate that what the U.S. is doing is TOTALLY STUPID and in fact is helping China while they’re catching up.
如果这些都能理解 , 那么就很容易理解美国所做的完全是愚蠢的 , 实际上是在帮助中国追赶 。
So the U.S. is banning NVIDIA and AMD from selling to China. This allows Chinese GPU makers to catch up while still able to sell their less than latest chips and supplanting Nvidia in China. These actions are killing off American companies. So Huawei can’t get the latest chips. They have their 5G technology in place with more business that they can handle while advancing with 6G. American tech companies do not such latitude of options.
因此 , 美国禁止NVIDIA和AMD向中国销售产品 。 这使得中国的GPU制造商能够在追赶的同时 , 仍然能够在中国销售他们还不算最新的芯片 , 并取代英伟达(Nvidia) 。 这些行为正在扼杀美国公司 。 所以华为无法获得最新的芯片 。 他们已经有了5G技术 , 在推进6G的同时 , 他们可以处理更多的业务 。 美国科技公司没有这样的选择余地 。
Note that China is also the world’s largest producers of chips and the high end chips take up only about 6% of this market. And that China’s SMIC overtook Intel with its 7 nm chip without use of the EUV machine. So be it 2 years or 8 years for China to catch up in the process U.S. actions are starving the industry players of their needed capital - e.g. AMSL won’t be able to do R&D to come up with their next EUV generation Litho machines. So much better for China.
请注意 , 中国也是世界上最大的芯片生产国 , 而高端芯片只占这个市场的6%左右 。 中国的中芯国际在没有使用EUV机器的情况下 , 用7纳米芯片超越了英特尔 。 因此 , 无论是2年还是8年 , 中国都要迎头赶上 , 在这个过程中 , 美国的行动正在使行业参与者失去所需的资本——例如 , AMSL将无法进行研发 , 以推出下一代EUV一代Litho机器 。 这对中国来说好多了 。


巴西网友的观点
The technological bans and restrictions to China are to stop what is unstoppable: that China displaces the USA as the first world power. Problem is they can’t.
对中国的技术禁令和限制是为了阻止不可阻挡的事情:中国取代美国成为第一世界强国 。 问题是他们不能 。

The problem is that what the USA does in its world domination obsession when they restrict is to force the Chinese to develop their own technology. It may take one year or two at the current pace China is moving but they will do it.
问题在于 , 美国在其统治世界的痴迷中所做的是限制中国人发展自己的技术 。按照中国目前的步伐 , 这可能需要一两年的时间 , 但他们会做到的 。
The USA continues to underestimate the Chinese in all areas and think they can do better like presently the USA trying to come with an option that they can control to the multipolar international trading alliances and treaties coming from Eurasia. A battle the US can even fight in.
美国继续在所有领域低估中国 , 并认为他们可以做得更好 , 就像目前美国试图提供一个他们可以控制的多极国际贸易联盟和欧亚大陆条约的选项 。 一场美国甚至可以参与的战争 。
That’s why they are more afraid of China than they are afraid of Russia: because they MAKE products they are an industrial country meanwhile the USA is not any longer. And Chinese are better traders than the USA ever were. They do not interfere with the internal politics of the countries they deal with. They leave them alone they have no intention of subjugating them and that is the complete opposite of the imperialistic US behavior since 1945.